General:

What is “the cave”? What is a cave explorer or warrior?

The cave represents our emotional body—the heart and soul. Inspired by Joseph Campbell’s quote, “The cave you fear to enter holds the treasure you seek,” the cave symbolizes our shadows, traumas, and fears—those things we know are there but avoid confronting. This is especially common for men, who are often taught to suppress emotions and push through without acknowledging pain.

In our circles, "entering the cave" refers to the process of facing these aspects of ourselves. While the work can be intense, we also bring humor and levity into the space.

A "cave explorer" or "warrior" is someone who has begun that journey—someone who has faced his fears and entered the cave. These men are honored for their courage in confronting their deepest selves.

Do you have any type of degree, certifications, or training regarding the work you do?

Yes and no. Not in any traditional, institutional sense. I am not in anyway a licensed therapist or specialize in a specific Western medicine modality.

I have always prioritized apprenticeships, mentorships, and internships over traditional education. Early on in junior college, I realized that I learned best through experience and observation rather than textbooks and tests. I believe everyone learns differently, and what matters most is who you are and the impact you make.

For the past two years, I’ve had the privilege of learning from my mentor, Vince Matoska, who has decades of experience in men's work. I also continue to attend trainings and read widely in the fields of men’s work, psychology, and spirituality.

I am deeply grateful to many men whose wisdom has greatly influenced my journey, including Robert Bly, Sam Keen, John Lee, Robert Johnson, Robert Moore, Doug Gillette, Thich Nhat Hanh, James Hollis, Carl Jung, and countless others. I am currently working on a reference page to share the works that have shaped my approach.

My first commitment as a facilitator is to always remain a lifelong student. I sit in a weekly men’s circle as a participant and am committed to my own ongoing healing and growth.

The framework I use is rooted in the belief that each of us already holds within what is needed to heal. It’s not about someone else holding a magic key, but about creating space for individuals to go within. I do not believe in hierarchical healing modalities. Our bodies and spirits already have the answers; most of us simply haven’t learned how to listen.

I am also pursuing continued training & leadership through organizations like the Mankind Project, Sacred Sons, and others dedicated to transformational healing outside traditional models.

Are the circles or your offerings ideologically driven or religious-based?

Absolutely not. I strive to create radical freedom of expression in every space I facilitate. All of my work is informed by the idea of greater energies, powers, and potentials, which I refer to as "spirit," though men are free to use their own terms.

You are welcome regardless of your belief system, as long as you agree to our space’s guidelines. Our agreements are designed to create a welcoming and safe environment for all.

Interestingly, politics rarely come up in these spaces. We get to know each other not through ideological or religious lenses, but through our shared experiences, heartaches, and struggles. In a world where we are often defined by labels, our circles are the opposite.

Circle Specific:

Is there a cost to attending a men’s circle?

No, there is no financial barrier to attending our in-person circles in the Traverse City area. Donations are welcome to help offset costs and support the time, energy, and love invested in each circle.

One of the core principles of these spaces is that they should be open and accessible to all men.

For online circles, there are different financial commitments, but I’m always open to a conversation if support is needed.

I would love to attend a circle, but I can’t drive to the location. Is there any assistance?

We will do everything we can to help men get to circle. If you need a ride, reach out, and I’ll do my best to find one for you.

What is the format of the circle?

Our circle format follows a structure used for decades within the men’s work movement, with four rounds that honor male archetypes and the four directions. We also begin with a logistics round to handle any "outside world" topics before entering the ritual space.

Before the circle, we perform two rituals—smudging and gatekeeping—that help men fully arrive and ensure they are ready to participate.

Once in circle, the four rounds are as follows:

• EAST – Lover: Check-In Round

• SOUTH – Warrior: Accountability Round

• WEST – Magician: The Cave Round

• NORTH – King: Reconnection & Check-Out Round

This format may seem unfamiliar or even intimidating to first-timers, but the flow is designed to help men fully arrive, create a safe and supportive space, and allow for deep exploration. The West (The Cave) round is where much of the work happens, and the North round honors the work done and brings closure.

While the structure may sound overwhelming, the actual experience is welcoming, peaceful, and grounding. Be sure to check out testimonials from other men who have attended!

Be sure to check out the Four Directions and Archetypes pages for more information!

I like the idea, but I’m nervous or anxious about stepping into the space. Any advice?

This is completely normal. Every man who has stepped into circle has felt the same way.

Our space is designed to help you step into courage. This kind of ritual space is unfamiliar to most men, and feeling anxious or nervous is part of the process.

I’m available to chat if you’d like to discuss anything before your first circle. While I can’t fully ease your nerves, there is great beauty in leaning into discomfort. Growth always happens at the edge of our comfort zone.

What I can assure you is that, if you take that step, you will find one of the most welcoming spaces you’ve ever experienced. This is because it’s a community of men who have all faced that same fear and deeply appreciate when a new man takes the leap.